Astrology of Now: Overwhelming

Tuesday September 8th 2015
Snow, Storm, Steam -- JMW Turner

Snow, Storm, Steam — JMW Turner. Turner had an earthy grand trine between Neptune and Jupiter.

Jupiter in Virgo opposition Neptune in Pisces — September 17

Readers of the horoscope will know that the coming opposition between Jupiter and Neptune is the most important aspect this month, influencing this entire period into the next season and possibly the whole year.  For some people it will be the most important aspect of a lifetime.

For the refugees walking out of danger, the meaning of this aspect is clear, but every single one of us feels this one. Neptune in Pisces is super-powered. Jupiter, opposing him, both magnifies the power and distributes it.

This aspect is about huge emotion, bursting through boundaries and breaching of borders, overwhelm. These are the planets of Pisces and the images are high tide, the flood. In these mutable signs, it is about unstoppable change. You cannot resist this energy, you must flow with it. It is also about compassion, inspiration and big love.

Everyone is affected, of course, but those of you with planets in the first half of Virgo and Pisces should feel the power now. The same degrees of Gemini and Sagittarius will also be swept along. Cancer and Capricorn need to take initiative and surf the wave from the front. Taurus and Scorpio should remember that resistance really is futile. Look at the houses affected in your natal chart for a steer on how this may work out for you. If you are looking closely at your chart, you should give this a wide orb.

Although it’s heartening to see refugees reaching as safe haven, it’s as well to remember where they are coming from and how Jupiter-Neptune might be working in the Middle East. This aspect is ideological power and fanaticism, and a dissolving boundaries. It’s about grand illusions — good or bad. ISIS has the upper hand in Syria because they have the more compelling story. They may be as unstoppable as the Third Reich seemed in 1939.

History’s Lessons

Just to give you a little data. The last time this opposition was in the same configuration by sign and planet was 1849. Then in 1939, this was reversed so that Jupiter was in Pisces and Neptune in Virgo. I’ve discussed the significance of large movements of people, particularly into, across and out of Europe, under these aspects in previous posts. Also in 1849, the Habsburg Empire was still fighting to retain control after the 1848 nationalist uprisings; old borders were being redrawn exactly where today’s refugees are walking. And 1939 was the eve of WW2 when Germany burst out of its borders in the Blitzkrieg.

But the also opposition takes place every 14 years or so in one pair of signs as Neptune ploughs his way through the zodiac.

The fall of Venice took place in August 1849, one day after the exact opposition of Neptune and Jupiter.

This depicts the fall of Venice, which took place in August 1849, one day after the exact opposition of Neptune and Jupiter. Wikimedia Commons

Oppositions since 1960

June, Dec 1964; Feb 1965 — Jupiter in Taurus, Neptune in Scorpio

June 1977 — Jupiter in Gemini, Neptune in Sagittarius

October, November 1989; June 1990 — Jupiter in Cancer, Neptune in Capricorn

Sept 2002; Feb, June 2003 — Jupiter in Leo, Neptune in Aquarius

Sept 2015 — Jupiter in Virgo, Neptune in Pisces

June 2028 — Jupiter in Libra, Neptune in Pisces

We can see some other mass movements (literally, people moving) in the dates of the opposition in other signs. The Berlin Wall came down in the autumn of 1989 exactly under this aspect: that resonates with now. In 1964/65 the American Civil Rights movement started to gather momentum (after Martin Luther King’s Jupiterian I Have A Dream speech in 1963), culminating in the Selma March in the spring. In fact, that Jupiter-Neptune opposition was exactly across Dr King’s asc-desc axis. Need I point out that #blacklivesmatter. On the same theme, Roots, a TV show that traces the story of an African-American family, which empowered black people and changed the way some Americans read their own history, began showing in 1977, under the Gemini-Sagittarius axis for this aspect. Sagittarius is, of course, the sign of broadcasting.

In that same year, President Sadat of Egypt got on a plane to Israel and made peace. Again there is the theme of breaching boundaries, this time in the signs of Gemini (flight) and Sagittarius (travel and international relations). It was a grand and dramatic gesture, suitable for Jupiter and Neptune. The opposition stimulated Sadat’s chart — Neptune was on the conjunction of NN and Mercury in Sagittarius — and he acted a few months later. So we can expect to see actions and repercussions from this current transit for many months, if not years, to come. The peace treaty with Israel was not signed until 1979.

Jupiter-Neptune mass movements can manifest in other ways too — not necessarily political. Consider the opposition in 2002-2003, this was at the tipping point for the internet in the West: a steady stream of uptake became a massive flood in that period — appropriate for Neptune in Aquarius, the sign of tech. Blogs became a thing. You can see the interaction there between personal creativity (Leo) and community (Aquarius). On the other hand, the other boundaries that were broken were those of Iraq, and again you can see some imagery there. Jupiter in Leo, the blustering allies, Neptune in Aquarius, lies about technology (remember the weapons of mass destruction that never were?). The invasion of Iraq was a blitzkrieg – overwhelming force, “shock and awe”. Uranus in Aquarius provided the shock part of that equation.

Of course, with all these historical moments there are other planetary alignments involved. Notably in the 1960s, the conjunction of Uranus and Pluto in Virgo — now they are squaring; and in 1989 the conjunction of Neptune, Saturn and Uranus in Capricorn.


Virgo can be a tough sign for Jupiter. Virgo is all about detail, precision and analysis, and Jupiter is all about big pictures and wide horizons. But Jupiter shows us where we can grow, and maybe we can grow by taking small, practical steps, by really paying attention to the detail, and by not getting distracted by far horizons. On other hand, the details can swallow you up. One of the reasons Venice fell to the Austrians 1849, according to some historians, was because they failed to invest in the detail.

Jupiter and Neptune are, of course, the traditional and modern rulers of Pisces. So all Pisceans – sprats, minnows and killer whales – are moved by the rhythm of the oppositions and conjunctions of these two big planets. Your Piscean planets will also be under the sway of this rhythm, and that includes a lot of people with Chiron in Pisces undergoing a Chiron Return right now.

Neptune is the planet of illusion and gossip, glamour and magic, Dionysian excess and sacrifice, dissolution in all senses of the word. Neptune dissolves boundaries, identities and laws. Above all perhaps, Neptune is idealism, utopias, dreams. In Pisces, these powers are increased many times over it would seem. Whenever Neptune contacts Jupiter from this position there seems to be overwhelm. When Jupiter was in Cancer, at a pleasant enough trine to Neptune, emotions seemed to brim over for the whole year for many people.

But both these planets share the qualities of kindness and compassion, clemency and forgiveness. Neptune in Pisces can be very kind or a fundamentalist martyr; Jupiter in Virgo can be compassionate but hyper critical. The cruelty that we have seen from ISIS, for example, is a manifestation of Pluto (on ISIS asc) not Neptune or Jupiter.

An opposition is maximum extension. Between them, these two planets embrace the whole Zodiac for a moment. We’re all Pisces now. The fish dream, sing, rhyme, enchant… bewitch.

The Kelpie by Herbert James Draper, 1913

The Kelpie by Herbert James Draper, 1913. Wikimedia Commons.




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  1. Sabrina says:

    Overwhelming it is. Is a bit like having vertigo. My body is feeling it as it felt Uranus leaving Pisces and Neptune entering it in spring 2011 as well as Chiron earlier that year (remember the tsunami? You wrote a good one about that). What is going on is really too much to process. A woman I know that teaches meditation was telling us a dream she had when she was a child: she was drowning in a river she used to go every summer, she was terrified because she could feel the water entering her body until it all became ‘the’ water and then she was just flowing with it, no struggle.

    • Leonora says:

      Just had a long chat with someone who is so overwhelmed right now it induced such bad anxiety he thought he was seriously ill and has had an MRI scan… Jupiter, Neptune and saturn overwhelm his asc and moon. jupter is also conjunct Orcus indicating long term oaths but with what?

    • Christina says:

      Oh my, I didn’t know what you were talking about at first. But it’s come on me today. Highly energised, with energy rushing through me like I’m a sieve. Disconcerting but not unpleasant.

      • Leonora says:

        Interesting to read of the effects felt in the body. It must be terrifying for people who have no framework for “other dimensional” life. Plus horrid footage of floods in Japan show the might of Neptune against Saturn. I loved the dream of your yoga friend – we’re all the droplets which make up the wave.

  2. Eleonora says:

    “ISIS has the upper hand in Syria because they have the more compelling story.” – how true. Nice reference to 1848/49 upspring.
    Great post Christina, so great I will have to read it again.

    • Eleonora says:

      It looks like Orbán came to a new (even more radical) strategy for refugees, prepared to start with it at 15th september. It includes punishing “illegal” asylums seekers as criminals (3 years jail), establishing an isolated zone for refugees along the border and sending the army to the border in order to prevent refugees to enter Hungary.

  3. Beth says:

    My feet giving weird problems…never had these on and off aches before…Neptune which is in Virgo in natal chart is now on my 10 deg sun in 6th house… Transiting..uranus on my asc ruler………odd dreams at the moment too……

    • Eleonora says:

      I had some odd dreams as well, I think that opposition may be one reason. But very active 12th house as well. Chiron entering your 12th?

  4. Jamie says:

    I like the run down. Do we have a duty to “preach” this to people? Do we know how to articulate it in some way that can easily be understood by the masses?

    • Christina says:

      That’s an interesting question. Of course, hardly anyone listens to astrologers anyway — unless they are saying the end of the world is nigh, or there is a really scary eclipse. That is why it’s a good thing to get as many people as possible understanding astrological symbolism and thinking. It’s quite hard to talk to non-astrologers sometimes because the way we think is so different from how most people are trained to think. Furthermore, the way people are used to thinking about astrology — even if they accept it — is pretty different from this way of thinking. Hmm I feel a blogpost coming on.

      But, I think, in some way the unfolding story of the refugees is slantwise “preaching” to people.

  5. Morvah says:

    Thankyou for your painstaking research Christina and the clarirty with which you have been able to tackle what is at best a nebulous influence! I have Neptune and Jupiter trine in air signs so I recognise the flavours, though Neptune long term transiting my Mercury 3rd is making for an interesting time. For certain nobody will emerge from this one without a little damp at the edges ~ Blessings

  6. Jassi says:

    the opposition occurred the day the almighty Federal Reserve chair Janet Yellen made the decision to leave interest rates as they are in the U.S. mainly because of the uncertainty over factors such as China’s economic outlook. Analytical as I might be sometimes, a few key words of Jupiter and Neptune came through this past Thursday.

    • Christina says:

      Interesting. I note that she was born the year of a conjunction.

      • Leonora says:

        I just noticed the painting in the article – the Fall of Venice. My husband has very nice arranged a surprise trip for us to Venice, going on Wednesday!

        • Christina says:

          Perfect — maybe overwhelmingly wonderful.

        • Leonora says:

          PLus I drew a chart for Lord Ashcroft, the man spurned by David Cameron for a top gvt job who has written a biography which claims all manner of bizarre things re Cameron!
          Ashcroft has natal Sun Venus Moon conj in Virgo square natal Uranus. The Jupiter Virgo combo is widely square his planets in Pisces – however, when Saturn hits his stellium n Spring 2016 he might be suffering the repercussion of his allegations!
          Ashcroft’s Mercury is opposite Neptune… The synastry shows this opposition conjuncts Cameron’s ascendant/Vertex opposition… very troublesome. Ashcroft’s Chiron opposes Cameron’s Uranus.

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