La Bromance: Emmanuel & Donald
Brigitte Macron, Donald Trump, Melania Trump, Emmanuel Macron — planting a tree on the White House lawn — appropriately dressed for the task at hand: getting stuck in a lawn.
There’s nothing surprising to an astrologer about the singular affinity of Presidents Macron and Trump. Indeed, their synastry is excellent. They flatter and reflect each other — one polishing the other’s shine.
Furthermore, the fact that they seem to hold opposite opinions on just about everything from free trade to emigration, women’s rights to climate change is also written in the charts. And therein lies the mutual fascination.
Emmanuel Macron, France’s ambitious, arrogant, clever, young president was born with and extraordinary and special Sun in the very final degree of the expansive sign of Sagittarius, where all that is best and worst about that big-hearted sign is amplified. His wife (and coach) tells him he talks too much and he needs to keep it pithy. Now wonder she has to remind him of that, as a Sagittarian Mercury is likely to go on and on.
I’ve remarked before though that Mercury Rx is often unusually smart, an auto-didact who reaches his or her own conclusions about the world by thinking ideas through thoroughly. M. Macron is not interested in received opinions; his own are quite enough.
Sagittarians at their best are optimistic, generous, internationalist, philosophical, persuasive, even visionary. Macron has displayed all these characteristics already in his premiership. They are also arrogant, gamblers, poor listeners, and overly-theoretical. We shall see…
Macron is Jupiterian thanks to the mass of planets in Sagittarius, but his chart ruler his ambitious Saturn in prissy Virgo — evident in his perfect Virgoan self-presentation. And despite his expansive nature, he’s attracted to Daddy figures and macho men as per Saturn and Mars in the 7th house of relationships. He’s had various older mentors who have helped him climb France’s gilded poltical ladder.
(With Capricorn Rising and Saturn Rx in the 7th, no wonder he married a woman old enough to be his mother. He would have been 15 going on 42 as a teenager. Even now, he has that odd air of the boy-wonder.)
Despite the talk of “testosterone” in the discussion of the two leaders encounters, neither man comes across as exactly “manly”, which is interesting since they both have Mars in Leo — a placement which could turn manliness into a performance. Trump seems red-faced and aggressive, which you’d expect with Mars Rising. But Macron’s Mars is retrograde in Leo. His masculinity is much more discreet. Also, despite all that Sagittarian energy, he probably has extraordinary self-control and stamina with that Mars.
In fact, Macron’s Sagittarian overkill is reined in by four important planets in retrograde — Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. These give him a lot of patience and an ability to out-think other people. That Rx Jupiter is in patriotic Cancer opposite his Sun — no wonder his vision is large, and his patriotism extends to the whole of Europe. But again, this shows a tendency to overstretch.
As I write this, the North Node — the eclipse point — is cruising directly over Macron’s Mars. His trip to America is a big gamble — appropriately for such an uber-Sagittarian — and it will prove to be a turning point for his potency — for better or worse.
Clearly, he is positioning himself not just as the leader of Europe but also of the liberal, centrist, democratic “West”. Sagittarians do think big.
As far as he can be, Trump probably is truly personally charmed by the young whippersnapper. Macron’s fun Venus in Sagittarius — and his sense of humour is obviously one of his saving graces — is right on Trump’s wild Sagittarian Moon. Let’s not forget that Trump has had two foreign wives, and his mother was an immigrant, and all his grandparents were born in Europe. Trump’s whole “America First” schtick is partly a result of the conflict between his Gemini Sun and that international Sagittarian Moon. He’s always felt like a foreigner himself, and deep-down he identifies with Europeans. This may also be a factor in his apparent racism.
Of course, when Macron’s Venus touches Trump’s Moon, the old man feels at home with this good-looking Frenchman, so much so that he flicks an invisible bit of dandruff of that immaculate jacket. That gesture was more intimate than anything we’ve seen Trump do with Melania or even Barron for that matter.
But Macron is playing with fire. Trump was born on an eclipse — and he can eclipse people who get too close to his Sun-Moon opposition.
One of the most important aspects these two share is an opposition between Uranus and the Moon. This is a sign of a disruptor of status quo— and it’s a fact that both men won national elections as the “outside” candidate. Both men like to surprise and shock. Macron’s Uranus-Moon is currently getting a dose of Jupiterian energy, and he is certainly causing a lot of upset at home, attempting to break the railway unions, one of France’s most powerful labour organisations. But his star is certainly on the rise at the moment as Jupiter climbs to the top of his chart this year. He’s feeling lucky.
Trump, however, is probably feeling pretty gloomy, as Jupiter scuds through the bottom of his chart and Saturn opposes his Mercury.
Now, here’s a thing. Macron’s Mars is right on Trump’s dangerous Pluto — nuclear, criminal, powerful. These two planets are both warlike and they are right under the North Node. Let’s hope Macron is a restraining hand with that retrograde planet.
There are some interesting essential differences too. One of Donald Trump’s great motivations in life is “family” — the Trump name and legacy. You can see this in his Venus-Saturn conjunction in that most tribal sign Cancer and his Moon strongly place in the fourth house. Macron’s motivations are much less personal: they are universal and idealistic — Venus in Sagittarius, Uranus and Neptune sandwiching the MC. This may be something they just can’t understand about each other.
My impression of Macron is that he’s overly-theoretical. I read a long interview with him before he was elected where he described himself as a philosopher. I saw he was lost in theory.
I have a stellium in Sag, moon, venus, mars. I can’t relate to them at all! 🙂 But maybe with their moon/uranus oppositions, no one can?
Thanks, Christina! Food for thought. 🙂
Yes, he is definitely putting into practice some pretty abstract ideas, which may turn out to be mistaken. He also seems to be very Paris-centric.
It’s a change to see a politician at work who actually has a set of ideas that he has thought through for himself though.
I’m not surprised to learn they gel so much after watching the pr performance of the State visit. Its that 3/9 axis… Sadge is the evolved form of Gemini, after all.
I always forget about Orange Leader’s Gemini North node. Macron’s retrograde Libra North Node also makes sense, given the rest of his Capricon-esque late bloomer aspects (though with that Sun and Mercury in Sadge’s 3rd decan as far as its possible to be, he might as well be one).
I’d rather not pin the hopes of the West to successfully drag and otherwise cajole Trump away from the shiny, red WW3 button on the likes of a union buster, but I suppose that beggars are in no position to be choosers, now are they?
Hi Christina, what do you think about the following:
Trump’s asc. 29 Leo trine Macron’s Sun/Mercury 29 Sag. : beneficial and Mutual understanding.
Trump’s Mars 26 Leo conjunct Macron’s Saturn 0 Virgo : ?
Trump’s Jupiter 17 and Chiron 15 Libra conjunct Macron’s Pluto 16 Libra :
Macron’s Jupiter is beneficial to Trump’s ascendant and Mars, however could also enlarge his bad temper and explosive behaviour.
Macron’s Pluto could be instrumental in understanding some of Trump’s behaviour as well as healing as Jupiter conjunct Chiron in Libra is about his (large) wound.
Am curious what will happen when Uranus is going to transit Macron’s Chiron at 1 Taurus in the coming months.
Interesting to see this meeting happened while Mars and Pluto met in Capricorn.
mimi
Agree with all that. It’s really incredible synastry.
I think Trump actually has a midly paternal feeling toward Macron too — with Macron’s 29° Sun-Mercury making aspects to Trump’s ASC and sitting on his 5th house cusp.
Agree about the Jupiter Chiron point too — could go either way.
Uranus to Chiron. Now that is interesting too. Chiron in Taurus in the 2nd — that’s about money. Often that position shows someone who always feels a lack of the stuff. It’s his Achilles’ heel, so let’s hope that Uranus does not awaken that hunger, and instead he finds an innovative way to deal with it.
Just checked out of curiosity — Brigitte Macron currently has Pluto sitting right on her Chiron in Capricorn at 20°…
Her status certainly suffered a blow — Chiron in Capricorn — according to her account when she first got together with Macron. Also I wonder if this whole presidential gig is making her feel old… I’m exhausted just looking at those pix.
She also has excellent synastry with Macron — unsurprising.
as I recall the difference between them is 25 years – half of Chiron’s cycle !
Have not checked yet but certainly will check: where is his Juno and hers ???
mimi
Agree with all that. It’s really incredible synastry.
I think Trump actually has a midly paternal feeling toward Macron too — with Macron’s 29° Sun-Mercury making aspects to Trump’s ASC and sitting on his 5th house cusp.
Agree about the Jupiter Chiron point too — could go either way.
Uranus to Chiron. Now that is interesting too. Chiron in Taurus in the 2nd — that’s about money. Often that position shows someone who always feels a lack of the stuff. It’s his Achilles’ heel, so let’s hope that Uranus does not awaken that hunger.
her Juno is at the end of Aries so conjunct his Chiron, she just had a transit of Uranus.
his Juno is at the end of Sagittarius.
mimi
Wow— his Juno fits in with some of my thoughts about Juno being a highly political asteroid.
Also Junos are trine.
yep, don’t you just love astrology ?????
mimi
With all due respect you make no mention of Macrons speech to congress. Perhaps you havent seen it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9qIbSUwkyk
he really gets going 2/3rds in.
What Macron has clearly done is flatter Trump, gained access to the centre of the American government and essentially eviscerated him on international TV, with repeated standing ovations from both sides.
He is a Trojan Horse [theres your Sagittarius for you] I wouldnt underestimate that Jupiter Saturn sextile regarding the dance of diplomacy, given the Sag and rulership.
Also Christine Id really like to take issue with comments about Madame Macron being older than him.
On every bloody article its mentioned, but when people speak of Melania Trump/Trump do writers repeatedly mention that he is old enough to be her father?
Its a 2-3 year difference between the two couples. The sexism, unintentional or otherwise, could not be more marked.
Really? Here’s what I wrote: “With Capricorn Rising and Saturn Rx in the 7th, no wonder he married a woman old enough to be his mother.” That’s sexist?! It’s just happens to be true.
But since you bring it up: in this culture, at this time, that age-gap is unusual in that gender order.
It takes a huge amount of confidence and faith in your relationship and in your self to make that kind of choice — because they went against everyone. Mrs Macron was ostracised by her friends and her community because of her choice. People spat at her in the street. She sacrificed her career, her status, her marriage for Emmanuel. I could have said much, much more, because actually it’s an interesting and unusual story — and the age gap is a really important part of it.
I don’t think the Donald had the same response from his colleagues when he married Melania — do you? So no, it’s not the same. It’s an interesting mirroring though.
And as for not mentioning his speech to congress: I think you’ll see from my analysis that it’s all in the chart.
I do get that, but my frustration is that every article on him mentions it.
Just an hour before I commented Id read an article on the Guardian where an elder male journalist brought up the 25 year age gap in the second sentence, and thats par for the course.
Its just that the repeated mentioning of it underlines that it is unusal, rather than the non mentioning of Trumps age gap, which infers that is the norm.
And if its continuously voiced as unusal or shockng or outside the norm, then the the double standard will remain the norm.
And because of this there is a kind of embarassment/shame at this ‘abnormality’ both from the younger males side and the older womens side at voicing what as a result is inevitably seen as a Mummy complex, emasculating to the male and shaming to the woman supposedly seeking a child substitute. As a result there is less disclosure of this dynamic, which is probably far more common than the medias shock n awe tactics would lead one to supposed.
Vicious circle really.
I know you did mention the retrograde squares, I just feel that the calculated stratergy he pulled off was pretty gobsmacking, which for me rendered his charm offensive just a tool in his quiver.
I dont think he gets enough credit for it, and the significance of it is lost in all the focus on the shennanigans.
I was never particularly a fan, but getting the GOP to repeatedly give him a standing ovation for stances that they would normally decry, and had Obama voiced them, as he frequently did, would obstruct with every fibre of their being, seems deeply significant. Their applause was a repudiation of Trump, and the more retrograde conservatism, that ironically stifles efforts at conservation.
Also I think he has fun with Donald while simultaneously holding him in contempt.
That dandruff flick was a classic straight out of Desmond Morris, very amusing.
I’m sure there’s some symbolism to be read into this follow up story that the sapling has been removed from the lawn and put into quarantine …
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43941146
Uranus opposition moons natally ; public unpopularity !